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Offline Matjaz

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Double entries in the window for Source citation
« on: March 26, 2026, 18:41:29 »
Why some entries on the drop down lists under 'Event type' and 'Role in event' are doubled in Aries editor in the form of Gedcom tags? As I recall, initially there were no Gedcom tags on the list. See examples in the attachment.

I use Ancestris 13.

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Re: Double entries in the window for Source citation
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2026, 18:52:33 »
Hi, this is something that needs to be fixed. Have you upgraded your gedcom file to Gedcom 7 ? If so, let me see if I can find a way.

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Re: Double entries in the window for Source citation
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2026, 19:09:37 »
If what Majaz is referring to is the inclusion of entries like "Husband" and "HUSB" in the dropdown, this also exists in V14. In fact it has existing as long as I remember using Ancestris (v11 or 12 I think I started with). I'm still using GEDCOM 5.5.1.

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Re: Double entries in the window for Source citation
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2026, 19:15:05 »
I think he is referring to the DATA:EVEN list. I just tried and have the same issue with Ancestris version 14 (must be a side effect of my Property change last week...

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Re: Double entries in the window for Source citation
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2026, 21:10:47 »
How can I check what version of Gedcom file I'm using? I believe it is version 7, but I may be wrong.

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Re: Double entries in the window for Source citation
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2026, 21:31:12 »
You can display the HEAD entity in the GEDCOM editor.
You can use the "File"=>"Convert GEDCOM format" which will give you the current version.

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Re: Double entries in the window for Source citation
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2026, 22:57:34 »
Two other ways in Ancestris to do it:
- you personalise the icon bar and add the "Convert Gedcom format" button. The icon displays the version number
- you go to Menu/File/Convert Gedcom format and it is displayed there.

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Re: Double entries in the window for Source citation
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2026, 00:14:23 »
Ok I fixed the labels in the display list for a citation. They should now all be localized in the local language.
- In citations (SOUR:EVEN) it should be single event name so this should display ok.
- In source records (SOUR:DATA:EVEN), it coould be a list of values (1 or more). In this case Ancestris is not perfect.
Reason: we were not fully aligned with the gedcom standard in 5.5.1 and have something to improve in 7.0 because
- in 5.5.1 Ancestris was allowing free text for the citation, we should not have allowed it. So once it is upgraded in 7.0, it becomes a PHRASE underneath. Correct by the norm for citations.
- in 7.0, multiple values are possible using _PHRASE underneath. It would be better on the EVEN field.

I hope it helps and clarifies.

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Re: Double entries in the window for Source citation
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2026, 15:03:03 »
Thank you for your reply. The changes will likely be visible in the next Ancestirs update.

May be it is no longer relevant, but I use Gedcom version 5.5.1. Do you recommend to do the conversion from this version to version 7?

Matjaž

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Re: Double entries in the window for Source citation
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2026, 16:47:43 »
I think Gedcom 7.0 is cleaner and manages Associations in the right way compared to the previous norm.

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Re: Double entries in the window for Source citation
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2026, 17:17:18 »
Thanks. Then I'll convert to version 7.

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