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importing Gedcom from the Dutch program Aldfaer
« on: November 04, 2022, 15:18:51 »
I finally decided for a new genealogy program, which is going to be Ancestris.
That has much of what I was looking for.
Have to learn a new way of editing, so there might be some questions I will ask in this forum.

I started by imported my Aldfaer gedcom into Ancestris. Which gave me lots of errors en problems because it is not in the Ancestris import-list.
Will it be in the near future?
Aldfaer is a very wellknown program in the Netherlands.
So far I do not see many Ancestris users in my country, so maybe thats why Aldfaer is not in the list yet.

What I noticed so far is that i have to export the Aldfaer gedcom with Non-standard Gedcom tags disabled.

Furthermore it seems Aldfaer has non-standard ways for its date-format. Ancestris gives lots of errors for some of Aldfaers date formats.
Had to correct many of those in Aldfaer itself, to prevent the errors. (Did that in Aldfaer, because I am not yet so familiar with Ancestris)

So my question is:

Will Ancestris have a specific way of importing Aldfaer Gedcoms in the future?

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Re: importing Gedcom from the Dutch program Aldfaer
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2022, 17:16:03 »
Until then, no one ask for this and we don't have any example of Aldfaer produced GEDCOM.
If you agree to send us such a file, we can check what we can do for a better specific import.

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Re: importing Gedcom from the Dutch program Aldfaer
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2022, 17:17:28 »
Thats OK, where do I send it too?

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Re: importing Gedcom from the Dutch program Aldfaer
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2022, 17:24:35 »
Send it to zurga @ ancestris . org

I will look at it.

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Re: importing Gedcom from the Dutch program Aldfaer
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2022, 11:05:14 »
Message to those who might read this thread:

I am very happy with the Aldfaer import in the new Ancestris version 12.
But there is a warning:

Make sure when you export your Gedcom from Alfaer, you have it export ALL tags.
So go to: "Extra/Instellingen/GEDCOM Export" and put a mark before: "Aldfaer-uitbreidingen die buiten de GEDCOM-standaard vallen".

Make sure you save the import report you get in Ancestris.
After importing create a Gedcom Validation report and have that output EACH AND EVERY line ("Volledige lijst").

You might get a lot of warnings, but Ancestris has tools to get rid of those.

One of those tools is: "Edit/Delete" ("Bewerken/Verwijderen").
This is in fact a plugin, with which you can remove a tag througout the whole gedcom.
When you scroll down the "label lijst" from that plugin, you see a lot of tags that start with an underscore.
Most of them are Aldfaer tags, like "_INQUBIRT, _INQURELA, _INQUCHIL, _INQUDEAT, but also _COLOR".
They come from the Aldfaer tab: "Diversen/Uitzoeken en Presentatie".
Meant to help you with your research in creating a list of TODO's.

But Ancestris V12 has a report for that: "Tools/List and Reports" ("Gereedschap/Lijsten en Rapporten").
On that screen, goto: "Research/Search status of events by individual" ("Onderzoek/Zoekstatus van gebeurtenissen per persoon")
That gives you a list of all persons, with columns denoting what info is present or missing, from this person.
That means the _INQXXX tags are not realy necessary and can be deleted with that: "Edit/Delete" plugin.
That will remove a lot of warnings when you do another validation.

There will also be a lot of _NEW tags in the warnings. They contain the original date from Aldfaer, on which that person was added to the tree.
There is no official GEDCOM tag for that, and Ancestris uses almost only official Gedcom tags.
So if you think that date is not really necessary too, you could also remove it.
Ancestris uses the official CHAN tag for the date of last change of an entity.

So dont let that long list of warnings from the validation report frighten you.
Ancestris can help in getting things right.

For me it pointed out some real errors in my pedigree, that Aldfaer had not mentioned.

Hope this helps someone,

Mother10