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Offline trinekc

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One event - several persons
« on: February 24, 2022, 10:27:57 »
Hi

Is there an easy way to connect one event to several persons? For example: Last night I had to add a residence to 11 persons (two parents and nine children) and I had to do exactly the same things 11 times. That was a bit annoying. :)

So I'm guessing there is some easy way to just register the event once and then eighter add the event (with sources etc) to several persons og add persons to the event.

Can anyone help me?

Regards, Trine

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Re : One event - several persons
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2022, 10:44:20 »
Hi,
For example, you could create a Note for that event, and link those 11 persons to that note. The Note must be created as an entity. Maybe someone else will have another idea. Hope that helps. Francois
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Re: One event - several persons
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2022, 11:36:04 »
Hi,
For example, you could create a Note for that event, and link those 11 persons to that note. The Note must be created as an entity. Maybe someone else will have another idea. Hope that helps. Francois

I think I must be doing something wrong. When I make a Note for an event I don't have the dates and places - only the text I write. When I check the Entities Table the note is there, but I don't know how to link persons to a note. I have tried to associate persons to the event, but it doesn't show as an event by the other persons.

It might have been a good idea to get the hang of all the technical stuff before trying to add all my ancestors - I would hate to have to start over with all 530 persons...

Regards, Trine

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Re: One event - several persons
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2022, 11:40:20 »
There is no group events of any kind in the GEDCOM norm, so Ancestris doesn't have such type of thing.
I know that Gramps use groups events in his database model, Ancestris try to stay with GEDCOM norm for compatibility.
Groups events in gramps are for example never understood by any of others genealogy software. they turn theses into separate event in the best case.

The best idea I have for this type of information is to create an event in the family or for one of individuals and link the others as association.

Zurga
« Last Edit: February 24, 2022, 11:42:36 by Zurga »

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Re: One event - several persons
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2022, 13:17:46 »
Hi Zurga,

IMHO, a NOTE could be a good idea, as you can add as subtag a SOURCE_CITATION tag as I said, and according to the gedcom specs, with the source citation you can have a DATE. With such a source, you can add multimedia links, so you can add pictures, etc..

Those are the gedcom specs :

NOTE_RECORD: =

  n  @<XREF:NOTE>@ NOTE <SUBMITTER_TEXT>  {1:1}
    +1 [ CONC | CONT] <SUBMITTER_TEXT>  {0:M}
    +1 <<SOURCE_CITATION>>  {0:M}
    +1 REFN <USER_REFERENCE_NUMBER>  {0:M}
      +2 TYPE <USER_REFERENCE_TYPE>  {0:1}
    +1 RIN <AUTOMATED_RECORD_ID>  {0:1}
    +1 <<CHANGE_DATE>>  {0:1}

n SOUR @<XREF:SOUR>@    /* pointer to source record */  {1:1}
    +1 PAGE <WHERE_WITHIN_SOURCE>  {0:1}
    +1 EVEN <EVENT_TYPE_CITED_FROM>  {0:1}
      +2 ROLE <ROLE_IN_EVENT>  {0:1}
    +1 DATA        {0:1}
      +2 DATE <ENTRY_RECORDING_DATE>  {0:1}
      +2 TEXT <TEXT_FROM_SOURCE>  {0:M}
        +3 [ CONC | CONT ] <TEXT_FROM_SOURCE>  {0:M}
    +1 QUAY <CERTAINTY_ASSESSMENT>  {0:1}
    +1 <<MULTIMEDIA_LINK>>  {0:M}
    +1 <<NOTE_STRUCTURE>>  {0:M}


The power of Ancestris is that you can do so many things,  Francois
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Re: One event - several persons
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2022, 16:50:35 »
This is OK only if you use GEDCOM Editor, on others editors, you will struggle to create this structure (or it will be impossible, Cygnus for example).
Additionally, this won't be displayed in chronological view of the individuals.

You can find alternatives solutions but the main concept is absent from the GEDCOM norm.

Zurga

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Re : One event - several persons
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2022, 17:55:08 »
Thank you all!

I found out that if I create the event for one person, then I can just copy/paste it with the Cygnus-editor. A lot easier than creating the event for every one!

Have a nice weekend, Trine