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ENGLISH / Re: importing Gedcom from the Dutch program Aldfaer

« on: November 12, 2022, 11:05:14 »

Message to those who might read this thread:

I am very happy with the Aldfaer import in the new Ancestris version 12.
But there is a warning:

Make sure when you export your Gedcom from Alfaer, you have it export ALL tags.
So go to: "Extra/Instellingen/GEDCOM Export" and put a mark before: "Aldfaer-uitbreidingen die buiten de GEDCOM-standaard vallen".

Make sure you save the import report you get in Ancestris.
After importing create a Gedcom Validation report and have that output EACH AND EVERY line ("Volledige lijst").

You might get a lot of warnings, but Ancestris has tools to get rid of those.

One of those tools is: "Edit/Delete" ("Bewerken/Verwijderen").
This is in fact a plugin, with which you can remove a tag througout the whole gedcom.
When you scroll down the "label lijst" from that plugin, you see a lot of tags that start with an underscore.
Most of them are Aldfaer tags, like "_INQUBIRT, _INQURELA, _INQUCHIL, _INQUDEAT, but also _COLOR".
They come from the Aldfaer tab: "Diversen/Uitzoeken en Presentatie".
Meant to help you with your research in creating a list of TODO's.

But Ancestris V12 has a report for that: "Tools/List and Reports" ("Gereedschap/Lijsten en Rapporten").
On that screen, goto: "Research/Search status of events by individual" ("Onderzoek/Zoekstatus van gebeurtenissen per persoon")
That gives you a list of all persons, with columns denoting what info is present or missing, from this person.
That means the _INQXXX tags are not realy necessary and can be deleted with that: "Edit/Delete" plugin.
That will remove a lot of warnings when you do another validation.

There will also be a lot of _NEW tags in the warnings. They contain the original date from Aldfaer, on which that person was added to the tree.
There is no official GEDCOM tag for that, and Ancestris uses almost only official Gedcom tags.
So if you think that date is not really necessary too, you could also remove it.
Ancestris uses the official CHAN tag for the date of last change of an entity.

So dont let that long list of warnings from the validation report frighten you.
Ancestris can help in getting things right.

For me it pointed out some real errors in my pedigree, that Aldfaer had not mentioned.

Hope this helps someone,

Mother10

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ENGLISH / How to correctly add many witnesses to a wedding (in an Aldfaer imported Gedcom)

« on: November 11, 2022, 09:21:46 »

First: I read and reread the docs, but all I could find was an example of how to add a witness to a blessing in the Kennedy example.
No example of a wedding with witnesses.

I have a gedcom that is imported from Aldfaer.
Inside is a person that has 9 witnesses to its first wedding. I want to add the deed as a source to the witnesses because they are shown on it.

After the conversion I can see the witnesses in the Gedcom editor when I doubleclick on the corresponding FAMS record of that wedding.
(added a picture of that)

When I go to 1 of those witnesses in the Aries editor I see (other picture):

Eventtype is: MARR@
But when I try to add a new association, there is no marriage in the list I can choose from. (used the english Ancestris to be sure it was no translation error)
The MARR@ in the picture got there from the conversion, it was not added by hand.
It seems to work for a blessing as shown in the kennedy example. Blessing is in the list you can choose from.

Also, when I try to edit the excisting line (the one with MARR@ from the picture) it does not open the editor window, so I cannot add a source for example to this witness.

So what is the correct way to do this.
I understood that Gedcom in fact has no way to correctly add witnesses, so maybe this is not possible?
But then why is it there for a blessing in the Kennedy exmple.

Maybe the answer could be added to the docs, others might have questions about this too.

Thanks,
Tineke

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ENGLISH / Re: Information about new Ancestris versions.

« on: November 04, 2022, 17:39:38 »

Thanks very much.

I can understand, volunteers have more to do ofcourse.
I will have a look there.

Regards,

Mother10

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ENGLISH / Re: importing Gedcom from the Dutch program Aldfaer

« on: November 04, 2022, 17:17:28 »

Thats OK, where do I send it too?

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ENGLISH / Re: Twins in Ancestris

« on: November 04, 2022, 17:16:29 »

THANKS!!!
 

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ENGLISH / Information about new Ancestris versions.

« on: November 04, 2022, 15:25:40 »

So far I am using Ancestris version 11 (as a new user, coming from the program Aldfaer)

I could use Version 12, but I was searching for information about that new version, before installing it.
Could it be installed NEXT TO my current version?
So I can either use version 11 or use version 12.

So far I could not find anything about what Ancestris is adding to version 12 or what is already added, or anything about what other things are in the pipeline for newer versions.
It seems that there is no place like for instance Github or so, that shows what is done and what is to come.

Is there any place to get that information, or are there plans to have such information online some day?

Thanks so far for a great program!!!!

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ENGLISH / importing Gedcom from the Dutch program Aldfaer

« on: November 04, 2022, 15:18:51 »

I finally decided for a new genealogy program, which is going to be Ancestris.
That has much of what I was looking for.
Have to learn a new way of editing, so there might be some questions I will ask in this forum.

I started by imported my Aldfaer gedcom into Ancestris. Which gave me lots of errors en problems because it is not in the Ancestris import-list.
Will it be in the near future?
Aldfaer is a very wellknown program in the Netherlands.
So far I do not see many Ancestris users in my country, so maybe thats why Aldfaer is not in the list yet.

What I noticed so far is that i have to export the Aldfaer gedcom with Non-standard Gedcom tags disabled.

Furthermore it seems Aldfaer has non-standard ways for its date-format. Ancestris gives lots of errors for some of Aldfaers date formats.
Had to correct many of those in Aldfaer itself, to prevent the errors. (Did that in Aldfaer, because I am not yet so familiar with Ancestris)

So my question is:

Will Ancestris have a specific way of importing Aldfaer Gedcoms in the future?

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ENGLISH / Twins in Ancestris

« on: November 04, 2022, 14:23:30 »

When you have your Gedcom validated, messages you can get are: "Possible twins".

I looked in the docs, but cannot find if Ancestris has a special way of assigning a label "twins" to the children that ARE indeed twins.
Is there such a "label"?

If there is not, then why does ancestris gives that message in the validate report.

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ENGLISH / Re : How do I enter the living place of a person living onboard a ship

« on: August 06, 2022, 15:12:08 »

Ok thanks, I'll do that.

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ENGLISH / Re: How do I enter the living place of a person living onboard a ship

« on: August 06, 2022, 14:07:22 »

Thanks for your answer.
But I did not mean they died onboard.
They lived on a ship in stead of in a house in a city.
When they live in a city I can put the city as their home.

But how do you declare a "moving" home, a ship in this case, as their living place.
What I get now are places marked in red, because they dont have the correect mapping degrees.

Dutch: "woonde a/b ms xxx"
means:
Lived onboard the motorship xxx

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ENGLISH / How do I enter the living place of a person living onboard a ship

« on: August 06, 2022, 13:24:36 »

I have several persons who lived onboard a ship.
But i cannot enter a place for a ship because its moving. There are no fixed coordinates.
So how do I do that.
Thanks!