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Re: Ancestris for Haiku?
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2020, 07:36:55 »
My point is : if you install a jdk over 8, use jdk 11 rather jdk 13.
Jdk 8 and jdk 11 are long term support version. So theses versions have security fixes when it is mandatory.
Java 9, 10, 12, 13 and 14 are short term support with no security fixes.

This is why I suggest to use jdk 11 instead of jdk 13 from the list you provide in your messages.

Now, Jdk 8 is a very good option.
There is no need to upgrade jdk 8 to another version.
You have a version allowing to launch Ancestris v11, be pragmatic, keep it.

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Re: Ancestris for Haiku?
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2020, 08:27:43 »
So OpenJDK11 has no advantages over OpenJDK8 for running Ancestris11 (latest)?
Neither in functions nor in speed?

No matter how, but I would like to test it!
Only, it cannot be installed because ... (see https://discuss.haiku-os.org/t/java-openjdk/2583/69).
I'm not happy about that!

Thank you for your exemplary help, Zurga!
Ancestris has a great team!

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Re: Ancestris for Haiku?
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2020, 09:26:20 »
To my knowledge, Openjdk 11 or OpenJdk 8 is the same thing for Ancestris.

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Re: Ancestris for Haiku?
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2020, 05:20:20 »
I read it here, albeit very late:
https://en.ancestris.org/index.php?title=Installation

Most of the Ancestris features are compatible with Java Version 11, but to ensure full compatibility Java Version 8 (aka Version 1.8-) is recommended.

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Re: Ancestris for Haiku?
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2020, 07:25:49 »
This was the case for Ancestris 10.
Ancrestris 11 should be full compliant with Java 11.
Beside this you don't need Java 11 to run Ancestris.

The updated version of the documentation is here : https://docs.ancestris.org/shelves/english

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Re: Ancestris for Haiku?
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2020, 07:36:58 »
Thank you Zurga!
But then something is wrong ...
... I went straight from the Ancestris website.

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Re: Ancestris for Haiku?
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2020, 07:55:36 »
The wiki is the old documentation.
I provide the link to the new documentation.

Where did you find a link to the old wiki ?
We should have removed all theses links from our sites.

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Re: Ancestris for Haiku?
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2020, 08:37:40 »
Maybe phantom data ~ the internet forgets NOTHING!
If this information wasn't available, I wouldn't have been able to read it.
Anyway, I got there from the official Ancestris website.

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Re: Ancestris for Haiku?
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2020, 09:34:21 »
Ancestris wiki is still available but the official website or forum should not have link to it.
If you have the link we miss to remove, please, tell us where it is.

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Re : Re: Ancestris for Haiku?
« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2020, 12:40:24 »
https://en.ancestris.org/index.php?title=Installation
This is the wiki, old documentation.

This wiki is not referenced any more by Ancestris website.
If you find a reference on official website : https://www.ancestris.org/index.html, please tell us.

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Re: Ancestris for Haiku?
« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2020, 19:05:51 »
Maybe it would be helpful to do it the way BeSly does it:
http://besly.de/index.php/de/ (with a link to http://old.besly.de/) ...

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Re: Ancestris for Haiku?
« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2020, 06:57:18 »
Moin Zurga,
I just posted something on the haiku forum.
Which 'results' are you perhaps interested in?
Where can I find log files and the like. Do I have to make preferences somewhere so that they are written?
Thank you!
Polli

.....
If anyone is interested in (dewy) log files, reports, etc. (in connection with OpenJDK + Ancestris on Haiku, ...):
For life and health, I build a virgin SSD into my Zotac ZBOX IQ01 and provide partitions for Windows10, Haiku32 (daily / nightly) + Haiku64 (daily / nightly) and for shared data.

Korli kindly created a recipe for Ancestris10 (official stable version) and at the same time 'solved' the problem with libjpeg_9.3 (installation OpenJDK11) for it.
But I also want to test Ancestris11 (daily / nightly), otherwise I will miss too many updates!

If:
How should I proceed in order to achieve real and usable (helpful) results (log files, reports, ..., screen shots)?
Memory:
If:
How should I proceed in order to achieve real and usable (helpful) results (log files, reports, …, screen shots)?
Memory:
After the first Ancestris Start click, different error messages appear, which must be left as they are, otherwise Ancestris (10 + 11) will not start with a second Start click!
« Last Edit: October 20, 2020, 12:22:02 by Pollux »

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Re: Ancestris for Haiku?
« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2020, 07:59:04 »
Thanks you for your incredible effort to make it possible to use Ancestris with Haiku.

The log file is basically under /home/users/.ancestris/trunk/ancestris

Read here : https://docs.ancestris.org/books/user-guide/page/software-files-and-user-settings-files#bkmrk-the-user-directory

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Re: Ancestris for Haiku?
« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2020, 17:01:04 »
Thanks, I'll take a closer look at this!
I hope the Haiku OpenJDK Java specialists can find the little bugs and fix them!

Ancestris is a powerful program. The only application left is to replace my current genealogy software!

Nevertheless, I am not without (so far) unfulfilled wishes!

Polli (Pollux)
« Last Edit: October 20, 2020, 17:06:16 by Pollux »