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ENGLISH / Re: Suggestion - Improve English Translation
« on: April 18, 2018, 19:54:32 »
Apologies, after I finished creating my family tree I have really been out of the loop.
Glad to see this is still going, sorry for taking you for dead


Keep it up, I'll be keeping an eye from now on.  ;D


EDIT:


What is wrong with the forum software? It has been randomly changing my character sizes. See:

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Apologies, after I finished creating my family tree Ihave really been out of the loop.

Maybe it is incompatible with my web browser

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ENGLISH / Re: Suggestion - Improve English Translation
« on: April 18, 2018, 19:12:38 »

According to Wikipedia - and being an acronym in general -  it should be GEDCOM, all capitalized.



But forgive the offtopic, is Ancestris still actively developed? Haven't received any notifications from this forum in what seems like ages now.


There seemed to have been a huge dip in activity a few years ago after some storm in France a few years ago, if I recall correctly.
After that I was under the impression somehow it had been abandoned, but I may be wrong.


Just wondering if it is worth bothering

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ENGLISH / Re: Suggestion - Improve English Translation
« on: September 08, 2013, 21:04:50 »
This is not a typo but a feature. the ~ character is used just before the accelerator key used to fire this action from keyboard.

Oh right, I guess it is a good thing I asked here then, before screwing anything major up.
Ok then I'll try to submit the changes soon when I get back to translation.
Thanks again guys.


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ENGLISH / Re: Suggestion - Improve English Translation
« on: September 08, 2013, 20:21:17 »
Wow that sounds exactly like what I meant, guess it is easier than I thought.  :)
Yup I would be very carefull not to do just some "blind Find and replace" which would be prone to errors and possibly break things.

Ok, so if I wanted to submit some proposals right now all I had to do was let Trancestris download a new bundle and make some changes and submit, then you would review the changes on your end to see if you approve of them?

Would you approve of my proposed less drastic changes like unifying the use of "GEDCOM" word and fix that "File>Save ~As" on main Ancestris window and fixing the "Ancestis"
Where would be the best place to ask these questions about changing the UI text? Forum? This post right here? Open up a new post for every change? or perhaps the IRC?

Thanks

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ENGLISH / Suggestion - Improve English Translation
« on: September 08, 2013, 19:30:56 »
Hello everyone, I have mentioned this to Francois before, but I have been thinking about it a little more.

I have recently been working on the Portuguese translation of Ancestris 0.8 Beta, and while doing so I have bumped into some English UI text that I think could use some improvements. Nothing too big, just some occasional typos, inconsistencies, or some tool-tips and help text that look incomplete or could be better explained.
For example I think I saw a few occurrences on "Ancestis" instead of "Ancestris", you have a mix of "gedcom" "Gedcom" "GEDCOM" and even "GedCom" which for consistency sake should all be "GEDCOM" (if you would approve of this), there is a "Save ~As" instead of "Save As" etc.. Stuff that could easily be corrected with a "simple find-and-replace" anyone with computer skills and Trancestris could do, leaving more time for the developers to do the actual lot of work I am sure they already have.

Now I understand this is not an easy thing for a mere non-coding mortal like me to achieve, I've been told I needed access to the sources, and find the correct "Bundle.properties" files and edit them, so I was thinking of a way to make this easy and simple for every one:

1 - How hard would it be to add a new language for translation?

2 - If the previous is easy: Could this language be named something like "English improvements" or "English changes" or something along those lines? Since I believe all new translations start out as the standard English it would be relatively easy for anyone with Trancestris to make small corrections to the existing English texts, then:

3 - How hard would it be for the devs to receive the uploaded new texts through Trancestris like they already do, and match them against existing English UI and review it to approve/disapprove the introduced changes.

4 - If the previous is doable: How hard would it then be find and merge those changes from the translation to the corresponding Bundle.properties files? or if that is too hard

5 - Just simply use the new text strings from the "English Improvements" translation when Ancestris is set to use English instead of the original ones, doing so automatically and transparently to the user.

Now I as I said I am no coder, so I have no idea how hard all this is, if I am dreaming out loud and this is too complex/not worth the trouble I'll just shut up and leave you alone.  :-X
But like a true Open Source Community Project this looked to me like something that would benefit everyone in the community, both developers, by leveraging some work to the community and users that benefit from a better UI. Maybe even have some native English speaker volunteer help with this, I am Portuguese and I believe most people here are French right?

So what do you think?  :)


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ENGLISH / Re: 2 Bug Reports - User Folder settings
« on: September 07, 2013, 00:12:37 »
OK I could not recreate your terminal commands on windows command prompt (I have no idea what the equivalent of that is, or if it even exists) but erasing the settings folder did solve the random untranslated jurisdictions, they correctly show in Portuguese ( I could not recreate that error consistently, but when it happened it fixed it). Thanks a lot  ;)


But the untranslated UI still persists, further testing I have made lead me to the conclusion that Ancestris cannot display a translated UI whenever the user dir is defined as a relative path to the application directory. For exemple, all these are fine, and the UI is translated correctly:

*User home dir ${HOME} is fine
*Using the ".." for parent folder is fine
*Paths defined relative to C: drive like "\AncestrisSettings" are also fine
*Full paths lice "C:\Users\User Name\Watever\AncestrisSettings" are all fine
*Forward and backward slashes and including or omitting the inverted comas " " in the path are all fine too

But if I have Ancestris installed for exemple on "C:\Users\User Name\Watever" and set stuff like:

*default_userdir="..\Settings"
*default_userdir="${progdir}\..\..\Settings"

Everything works fine, UI settings are saved as Portuguese, but the UI is always in English even after restart.
If I give a full path to the same exact folder as above like:

*default_userdir="C:\Users\User Name\Watever\Settings"

then the UI displays in Portuguese just fine again, so I guess the problem is just user dirs defined as relative path of installation directory.

But like I said, this is just a minor annoyance for me, I always use my software in English anyway, so don't waste too much of your time hunting for this ghost of a bug  :)


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ENGLISH / Re: Re : Re: 2 Bug Reports - User Folder settings
« on: September 04, 2013, 13:59:17 »
P.S. Duarte, what is the language setting of YOUR COMPUTER? Not Ancestris, but your computer. Is it english or portuguese?

I am on an English version of Windows 7 64bits with all UI in English.

Yes I think you've found a similar behavior to mine

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ENGLISH / Re: Re : Re: 2 Bug Reports - User Folder settings
« on: September 04, 2013, 13:55:20 »
I guess it's logical. If you change the settings while Ancestris is running using a specific user folder, then, stop Ancestris, change the settings folder and restart ancestris. The program can't find the previously changed parameters (when you changed the language), and restart from a brand new folder, so with the default parameters...
Francois

Yes, I understand you explanation that the language settings are saved in the user settings folder, so it is natural that every time I changed folder I had to reapply the language preferences. That is why my workflow has always been  open Ancestris config file>change user dir>save config file>open ancestris>change language preferences to Portuguese>apply>restart Ancestris>reopen and check UI
My problem is not that language settings are lost, it is that after changing the language settings the UI translated texts seems to change depending on used folder.

I guess this is a niche problem since normal users don't change settings folder often so I it may be ok if you drop this, I can live with that  :) .
I don't use translated UIs that often anyway, I always prefer software in English, and have only been using the Portuguese translated UI just to check on my ongoing translation effort.

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ENGLISH / Re : 2 Bug Reports - Name order preferences and User Folder
« on: September 03, 2013, 13:44:33 »
Seems fixed on my end with the latest update.
Thanks  ;)

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ENGLISH / Re: 2 Bug Reports - Name order preferences and User Folder
« on: September 03, 2013, 13:16:50 »
Hello I have been testing again and there seems to be some issues with that, check this out:

This is an up to date first run Ancestris 0.8 installation, with the default user dir path, both UI and Output language set to Portuguese, restart, nothing else changed.
default_userdir="${HOME}/.${APPNAME}/trunk". Everything seems to shows up in Portuguese just fine.



This is exactly the same installation folder, after changing both languages to Portuguese again and restarting but with a changed user dir path to
default_userdir="${HOME}/.ChangedDirTest01", notice how both versions are in Portuguese, start age in the background and "Exigido" is still in Portuguese, but place jurisdiction translations differ.



And now the same installation folder, after changing both languages to Portuguese again and restarting but with a changed user dir path to
default_userdir="../.ChangedDirTest02", now nothing shows up translated, not even the start page in the background.



Hope this helps explain what I see

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Under Windows $progdir does not seem to be recognized (a folder with that name is actually created instead), but relative paths like ../mypref are working fine, I guess I'll keep using them happily, thanks a lot.

Also another thing I found out if you are interested is that in 0.8, localizations don't seem to be working if the user folder is changed. I am working on the Portuguese translation and my main Ancestris installation does not seem to show it. However, if I unzip a fresh install and keep the user folder unchanged Portuguese UI shows up quite fine.

Thanks again for the tips

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ENGLISH / Re : 2 Bug Reports - Name order preferences and User Folder
« on: September 02, 2013, 22:50:40 »
Thanks a lot, looking forward to it on the next release.

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ENGLISH / Re: 2 Bug Reports - User Folder settings
« on: September 02, 2013, 17:22:17 »
BUG 2 - User preferences folder not writable
User preferences folder cannot be a subfolder of Ancestris main installation path :

Which Operating System? : Windows

Which version of the O.S.? : Windows 7 64Bits

Which version of Ancestris? : Long standing behavior at least since 0.7 also prevalent in 0.8beta, 0.8.4500 20130901

What is your Java version? : Java 1.7_07-b10

What are the windows opened on your Ancestris application? : None fails at startup

This bug is related to the application itself or a plugin? : Application itself

If it's about a plugin, which plugin? :

If you use the beta version, do you update Ancestris each time a new version is available? : Yes

This bug appeared right after an update (you didn't get it before, and right now, you have it) : Present since I started testing it on Ancestris 0.7, Long standing behavior at least since 0.7 also prevalent in 0.8beta, 0.8.4500 20130901

Which version of the module is concerned (check the "Help - About" dialog box) : example, Ancestris Core: 0.8.0.4509

What is the process that makes the bug to appear (the more details  you can give, the better it is) : Change Ancestris\etc\ancestris.conf to have default_userdir="/MyUserPreferences" and application fails to start.

I am not sure this is a bug or intended behavior, but I'll explain:
I like using all my applications as portable applications (that is one that can run from a thumb drive, or USB stick or external hard-drive without a formal installation on any Windows system), which do not modify the system in any major way, like writing a lot to registry or leaving preferences and settings in the Windows user folder. I know this is not standard behavior and you probably don't officially support this, so this bug may be more like a feature request.

Anyway I tried manually editing the file Ancestris\etc\ancestris.conf so that the user preferences are saved withing the main Ancestris installation folder (instead of the default Windows User profile ${HOME}) and have successfully changed the default_userdir= to another folder.
The problem is I can make it write the preferences anywhere I want with relative paths like default_userdir="../MyUserPreferences", but if I try to make Ancestris write to a subfolder of the main Ancestris Installation ( like default_userdir="/MyUserPreferences" for example) the folder is successfully created, but an empty file named lock is placed there and the application no longer starts.

Could this be changed or this intended behavior for some security reason or something?

Backtrace in the log file :

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ENGLISH / 2 Bug Reports - Name order preferences
« on: September 02, 2013, 17:03:24 »
BUG 1 - Wrong Individuals name order
Ancestris does nor respect individuals name order preference (Always shows as "Last Name, First Name") :

Which Operating System? : Windows

Which version of the O.S.? : Windows 7 64Bits

Which version of Ancestris? : 0.8beta, 0.8.4500 20130901

What is your Java version? : Java 1.7_07-b10

What are the windows opened on your Ancestris application? : Treeview, Ancestris editor, and Table view

This bug is related to the application itself or a plugin? : Application itself

If it's about a plugin, which plugin? :

If you use the beta version, do you update Ancestris each time a new version is available? : Yes

This bug appeared right after an update (you didn't get it before, and right now, you have it) : Present since I started testing it on version Ancestris_0.8_-20130901, don't know about previous ones

Which version of the module is concerned (check the "Help - About" dialog box) : Ancestris Core: 0.8.0.4509

What is the process that makes the bug to appear (the more details  you can give, the better it is) : In all windows and editors the individual names always show with the order "Last Name, First Name", even though in Preferences>View>General>Individuals I have it set to "Charles de Gaulle" (as opposed to "de Gaulle, Charles" )

Backtrace in the log file :

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